RNC 1773 repair
Five years ago I ordered an FMR Audio RNP 8380 preamp and RNC 1773 compressor bundled with a Funk Logic FRT-8373 rack tray from Mercenary Audio. Mercenary is located overseas from me, as I live in Germany, so the weak Dollar in relation to the Euro was the main reason to order directly from the U.S.; aided by the fact that local prices for FMR Audio gear were comparatively unattractive (virtually not nice) at that time. This has changed meanwhile.
Well, although I’ve not the least doubt that Mercenary Audio would do everything to help me in case of a damage or malfunction, there is still the shipping time and cost to and from overseas if a repair becomes necessary. And last tuesday evening, when I hung out in my vocal booth, the worst case became true: all gain reduction LEDs of my RNC started to light up without an audio signal applied. After I switched it off and on again the LEDs still kept lit. Then I observed that turning the RATIO knob straight to the left made them turn off, but with just a few degrees turned to the right they all lit up again.
Would the german distributor be delighted to fix it for me? I did not ask but switched to plan B: become a geek and fix it by myself.
Easier said than done. After one hour of component checking I sat there without having a clue. Before, when I opened the housing and first saw the three voltage regulators, I would have bet dollars euros to donuts that either one of the two 15 volts regulators is broken. But they were not.
After having put a pot of coffee on, downloading datasheets and digging in somewhat deeper into the circuit, I stumbled upon a 5.37 volts input signal on port 16 (AD0) of the CPU. Up to four ports of the 68HC705 can be used for A/D conversion, and all of them are utilized that way in the RNC; exactly matching it’s block diagram, the three pots RATIO, ATTACK and RELEASE are connected to AD1 to AD3, and AD0 seems to be feeded with the equivalent audio input sum signal brought over from output 3 of U4 (TL074, not in the main audio path, mentioned for the enthusiasts).
Back to the 5.37 volts on AD0: do they make sense if the reference voltage on pin 15 of the 68HC705 is exactly 5.0 volts? Probably not. Tracing back the path to U4 made me say „thank you“ to diode D3 for its job to protect the CPU from being blown: output 3 of U4 showed about +10 volts, with the non-inverting input 3 connected to ground and the inverting input 3 hanging around at +5 volts.
So I removed U4, which was btw more delicate to desolder than expected due to the surrounding resistor networks on the component side, and replaced it with a new TL074 in a precision ic-socket. Luckily that did the trick and the RNC is now fully operational again.
Just want to say thanks for posting this and for keeping it online! I had the same thing happen with my rnc and had almost given up until I came across this.
Did the same repair and it’s now up and running!
Thanks again.
WP
Hi WP,
thank you for your kind feedback and thumbs up for your successful repair.
All the best,
Hajo
Hi there,
first of all thanks for your post!
Did you come across datasheets/schematics other than the manual? If so, I’d love to know.
Cheers,
Jay
Hi Jay,
no other documents available. Maybe ask Mark from FMR Audio, he is a really nice and helpful guy.
All the best,
Hajo
Hi, great pics!
Those Distortion Trims are intresting, do you know what they do? Could I maybe add some nice coloring distortions to the signal?
Hi Schorschi,
I have no idea and did not touch them.
All the best,
Hajo
Hi there,
first of all thank you very much for your insights!
Unfortunately my RNC just broke down and I would like to now where exactly I would have to measure the mentioned port 16? I mean where would the other tip of the measuring tool go? I’m more of a noob at this, but I would like to be able to repair my unit. I’m afraid my problem is kind of different though as something in the detection circuit or vca seems to fail. The original signal comes through as long as I don’t turn the threshold below, well, a certain threshold (that’s about 7 to 8 o’clock) and then strange bevaviour happens to the output signal. Then, it starts to ‚compress‘ but it sounds horrible :-( the attack seems to be analyzed correctly but it the signal then jitters about like crazy. This also happens without any input attached, being a kind of life of its own. I hope, this makes any sense to you, and would gladly receive any tips, hints or thoughts on this!!!
Cheers,
Jan
Hi Jan,
I am sorry, your comment and questions got lost a bit. The port 16 is marked with a red circle on the RNC CPU. You could as well hook on pin 8 („Out 3“) of the TL074. All signals are measured against ground. In terms of the type of failure, sorry again, I have no clue.
All the best,
Hajo
i replaced both of the op amps 4 and 6. works fine now
Hi Jb,
thank you for your feedback and thumbs up.
All the best,
Hajo
Hi there,
Thank you for your excellent post! I have EXACTLY the same problem, and had to record a vocal by stepping back and moving forwards as my RNC was broken when I most needed it.
I have a friend who will fix this for me and I have sent him your post above, but he wants a circuit diagram. You mentioned you downloaded some datasheets. Can you tell me where you found these please? Appreciate your help, otherwise I’m going to have to buy a new one!
Thanks,
Pat
Hi Pat,
don’t buy a new one, let your friend replace the defective TL074 op-amp. Sorry, no circuit diagrams available. Use a search engine to find the appropiate datasheets (if necessary).
All the best,
Hajo